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Oscar Peterson Trio Live at Ronnie Scott's - BBC 4
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8 comments :
One of the Peterson guitarists I like very much is Canadian Lorne Lofsky. He is a wonderful player - some nice examples of his unique playing are on YouTube. He can fly with the best but also seems nowadays to play a lot of subtle finger style harmony (with thumb pick)- and does it beautifully.
Roly
As you have remarked, another unsung hero. Plus at this stage in his life Peterson was as flamboyant than when he was at his peak thus leaving more spaces.
Someone once described Peterson (or was it Buddy Rich or both?) as a steamroller with a formula One engine!
Yes a good description - I actually got into jazz via Peterson. That great album 'Night Train'. I liked R&B and folk blues incl. blues & boogie woogie pno (Jimmy Yancey/Meade Lux Lewis etc)then saw Peterson probably on The Palladium TV show and was hooked. Dare I say it though - whilst he was a phenomenal pianist I don't think he was a great accompanist - tended to be a bit over busy. Be interested to see what others (specially pianists) think of this viewpoint. Gulp. I'll probably get slapped down.
Roly
Interesting point re Oscar. I think that if you are looking for an accompanist then guys such as Hank Jones or Ellis Larkins spring to mind. Put people like Peterson, Tatum or Garner with an instrumentalist (Tatum/Webster springs to mind) then you have to regard them as, in classical terms, a double concerto with bass and drums being the sole accompanists.
How about Brubeck/Desmond? How do you rate Dave as an accompanist?
An interesting topic and although I didn't see the concert in question, ( I hope it wasn't one of those recorded shortly before his death, when he was literally playing with one hand, which was sad to watch) but I agree with Roly in this respect----- Oscar was, without doubt, a phenomenal player with a flawless technique, immaculate harmonic sense & "hair -raising" drive & swing and in this respect had no equal. But he was a very competitive player who, I guess, found it difficult to play second fiddle to anyone, and on some recordings, you almost feel that he is goading rather than accompanying in a sympathetic manner.
I am not too familiar with his work with vocalists apart from Ella & Fred Astaire but I have never considered him to be alongside Tommy Flanagan, Hank Jones or Ellis Larkins as an accompanist. But I do remember a series of recordings he did with other virtuoso players such as Freddie Hubbard, Joe Pass, John Faddis etc which were virtually face to face "warfare". One got the feeling that Oscar was saying "this is how brilliant I am so let's see if YOU can stay with me".
I remember one of the tracks on the album with Freddie Hubbard, which was at breakneck speed, where they were swapping 4s & 8s with astounding brilliance until Freddie became so exasperated with the increasing complexity of Oscar's breaks that he collapsed into a series of whinnying & farting noises. Oscar had proved his point!
It must have been difficult for him to contain himself when accompanying lesser mortals but as Anne will confirm, the "fireworks" are for the solos & not for the accompaniment. But HEY,if that's his only flaw, I'LL settle for that on the same terms!!!!!
Bill and Anne
A fair assessment Bill. I do like accompanists who listen/react and play 'in the gaps' - Russ Freeman with Chet Baker is a nice example.
But Peterson has his place at the absolute pinnacle when it comes to virtuoso, 'lead from the front' jazz piano.
I've got a DVD where he plays with both Ray Brown & NOHP and some of his playing on that is just breathtaking. So is their's!
Peterson was a lovely guy too, do you remember when BBC gave him a series of chat shows. He seemed a bit uncomfortable doing the Parky bit but his genuine nature shone through and incidentally he sang a nice Nat Cole inspired vocal too. Changing tack what about the unsung Freddy Cole? Another master musician.
Roly
Peterson could be a little busy in comparison to some other pianists (ideal for the trio stuff) but having said that, I've never found it irritating, so presumably it's not too busy?!
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